FWIW BitFolk works out cheaper than rsync.net for 1TB of storage on
a yearly basis ($1,800 vs £819.20+VAT). Though rsync.net most likely
do have a higher resilience of network and storage than BitFolk
does, and there are also limits on the amount of data you can
transfer per month with BitFolk before having to pay for that also
(200GB/mo out).
If "single server with a RAID array" is an acceptable level of
resilience for you then hetzner.de will sell you a dedicated server
with 7x3TB consumer drives for â¬139/mo. Or 3x1.5TB for â¬51/mo. So
that's just â¬612 per year. Not sure if that includes VAT or not.
Cheers,
Andy
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Andy said:
> If "single server with a RAID array" is an acceptable level of
> resilience for you then hetzner.de will sell you a dedicated server
> with 7x3TB consumer drives for =E2=82=AC139/mo. Or 3x1.5TB for =E2=82=AC=
51/mo. So
> that's just =E2=82=AC612 per year. Not sure if that includes VAT or not=
=2E
That does sound more reasonable (acknowledging that a single server=20
increases the risks of failure).
Amazon Glacier sounds good, but if you ever want to see the data again,=20
it rapidly gets much, much more expensive.
What's surprised me the most is how expensive things get if you want to=20
use rsync or even csync. I'd have thought having a known reliable and=20
efficient program made more sense than writing your own, but...
If you're prepared to use someone offering what been called "not a=20
sustainable business" then things get rather cheaper, presumably on the=20
basis that not every customer is like me :) and onlinebackupdeals.com is =
an interesting read if you're after a consumer solution.
If you have lots of spare disc space, then symform.com is particularly=20
attractive. After encrypting it, it splits each 64 megabytes of your=20
backup into 64 smaller chunks, then uses the equivalent of Parchive=20
files to create 32 other chunks. The 96 chunks are then sent to 96 other =
users. If and when you want the data back, having *any* 64 of the 96=20
chunks is sufficient for the system to recreate it. (Somehow, they've=20
been allowed to patent this...)
So while users will come and go, you're fine as long as half the=20
userbase or their discs don't vanish overnight, and you get 1Mb of=20
'free' backup for every 2Mb of disc space you allow the system to use.=20
You can also pay for backup space.
Ian
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On 2012/10/15 11:04 PM, Ian wrote:
> Amazon Glacier sounds good, but if you ever want to see the data again,
> it rapidly gets much, much more expensive.
You have to decide if it's worth it. I've only once had to restore from
backups (my mac, had to fall back to previous OS release). Local
Time-Machine backup though.
> So while users will come and go, you're fine as long as half the
> userbase or their discs don't vanish overnight, and you get 1Mb of
> 'free' backup for every 2Mb of disc space you allow the system to use.
> You can also pay for backup space.
Why not host disk space (only for yourself) at home? Even here (in ZA)
an uncapped account is not that expensive. Slow, yes - I've got the
1Mbit account (though I have pulled the full 4Mbit line capacity during
night-time).
Do you have an always-on fileserver/gateway at home? Plug in an external
1/2/3TB disk (whatever you fancy), open up rsyncd on it, firewall it to
be only accessible from your vps. There you go. Backups might be a bit
slow, yes, especially the initial one, but it will be there.
Unless of course your data is so volatile it cannot be backed up over
such a slow link overnight.
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