Some university famously has a stuffed toy in the corridor where the computer science department has its offices. The idea is that you can't bother the staff with a problem until you have explained it to the bear - just explaining it to someone else often causes an 'ah ha' moment. Drafting an email to this list has just been that bear :) Today's tip: if someone complains their ad doesn't display on some site, check to see if it's blocked by ad blocking browser plugins. In this case, the name of the banner included '468x60' and this is caught by some filters, because it's a common ad banner size. Ian