30 Aug
2014
30 Aug
'14
3:39 p.m.
Hi all
I'm about ready to start seriously looking at IPv6; threw away the terrible
BT Home Hub 3 and replaced it with a TP-Link that I have now noticed has
6to4 built in and I figure that might be enough for
"<strike>playing</strike>experimenting". Trouble is I know next to
nothing
about v6 right now, so are there any guides to it out there that the far
more knowledgeable folks that frequent the list would recommend?
Kind regards
Murray Crane
30 Aug
30 Aug
4:29 p.m.
On 30 Aug 2014, at 16:39, Murray Crane <murray.crane(a)gmail.com> wrote:
are there any guides to it out there that the far more
knowledgeable folks that frequent the list would recommend?
https://ipv6.he.net/certification/ is a pretty decent crash course and should give you
enough of a foundation to start interacting with your server over IPv6.
You might also want to look into setting up a tunnel with https://www.sixxs.net/ to get
something a little closer to native connectivity.
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Aaron
31 Aug
31 Aug
6:10 a.m.
On Saturday 30 Aug 2014 17:29:15 Aaron Russell wrote:
On 30 Aug 2014, at 16:39, Murray Crane
<murray.crane(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Or get a real Internet connection ; )
http://www.aa.net.uk/
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Simon
are there any guides to it out there that the far
more knowledgeable
folks that frequent the list would recommend?
https://ipv6.he.net/certification/ is a pretty decent crash course and
should give you enough of a foundation to start interacting with your
server over IPv6.
You might also want to look into setting up a tunnel with
https://www.sixxs.net/ to get something a little closer to native
connectivity. 
3:05 p.m.
On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 03:01:22PM +0100, Mike Zanker wrote:
On 31 August 2014 07:10, Simon
<simon(a)calmblue.net> wrote:
If you do migrate to an ISP that supports IPv6 directly, the advice
from Vint Cerf is to let your existing ISP know that you're moving
because they don't offer IPv6. That way, we might actually see a few
more of them doing it.
Hugo.
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Or get a real Internet connection ; )
Seconded :)
I started off with a tunnel from my VPS to my linux box at home but
now I'm with AAISP Ive gone native, as it were... 
6:54 p.m.
** Hugo Mills <hugo-bf(a)carfax.org.uk> [2014-08-31 16:07]:
On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 03:01:22PM +0100, Mike Zanker
wrote:
** end quote [Hugo Mills]
Yes, every now and then I have a bit of fun phoning the sales lines of ISPs or
usually using their online chat. I ask about their facilities and although some
understand what I'm talking about when I ask about fixed IP addresses, they get
lost when I talk IPv6. Once in a while they tell me they can do it, and when I
question a bit further it is clear they haven't got a clue. With any luck
things have improved somewhat since I last was at a loose end and tried that. I
doubt it ever gets fed back that a potential customer (as far as they know) is
interested in IPv6.
I'm with Entanet so have both a fixed IPv6 and a chunk of IPv6 addresses and
native support on my router. I really need to get sorted on my website for
signing up being a reseller!
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On 31 August 2014 07:10, Simon
<simon(a)calmblue.net> wrote:
If you do migrate to an ISP that supports IPv6 directly, the advice
from Vint Cerf is to let your existing ISP know that you're moving
because they don't offer IPv6. That way, we might actually see a few
more of them doing it. Or get a real Internet connection ; )
Seconded :)
I started off with a tunnel from my VPS to my linux box at home but
now I'm with AAISP Ive gone native, as it were... 
1:29 p.m.
Hi Murray,
On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 04:39:47PM +0100, Murray Crane wrote:
I'm about ready to start seriously looking at
IPv6; threw away the terrible
BT Home Hub 3 and replaced it with a TP-Link that I have now noticed has
6to4 built in and I figure that might be enough for
"<strike>playing</strike>experimenting".
If you can't get (or don't want to pay to get) native IPv6 then I
would second the suggestion to use a tunnel broker like HE or SixXS.
Here's why:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6to4
"Due to the high levels of misconfigured hosts and poor
performance observed, an advisory about how 6to4 should be
deployed was published in August 2011."
The problem is that 6to4 relays are set up by organisations that you
have no relationship with, and are run with variable care. Trying to
use a broken 6to4 relay results in broken Internet, and you have no
one to talk to about that.
If you are going to tunnel, it would be best to do it with an
organisation that you have a relationship with, hence HE or SixXS.
Having said that, in the event of any problem SixXS will probably
just tell you to RTFM and HE will probably just ignore you, but at
least you'll know who to have the conversation with. :)
More seriously, HE and SixXS have a greater chance of working than
6to4.
Providing your own IPv6 tunnelling is also an option:
https://tools.bitfolk.com/wiki/IPv6/VPNs
(this article could do with more documented methiods than just
tincd)
although if your purpose in configuring IPv6 is partly to test your
VPS's IPv6 then it may not make sense to have your tunnel depend on
your VPS.
Cheers,
Andy
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