22 Oct
2009
22 Oct
'09
11:58 p.m.
Hi all.
I've just noticed that my VPS is now showing UTC rather than BST despite
still being in the "Europe/London" zone.
The following information has been given:
Britain (UK)
Therefore TZ='Europe/London' will be used.
Local time is now: Thu Oct 22 23:56:46 UTC 2009.
Universal Time is now: Thu Oct 22 23:56:46 UTC 2009.
I did a yum update earlier today, but I see no relevant changes in the
tzdata package.
Has anyone else (running CentOS) see this?
(Yes, I know it'll all be moot in a few days :)
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23 Oct
23 Oct
12:08 a.m.
Dee Earley wrote:
Hi all.
I've just noticed that my VPS is now showing UTC rather than BST despite
still being in the "Europe/London" zone.
The following information has been given:
Britain (UK)
Therefore TZ='Europe/London' will be used.
Local time is now: Thu Oct 22 23:56:46 UTC 2009.
Universal Time is now: Thu Oct 22 23:56:46 UTC 2009.
Odd, shouldn't it switch from BST to GMT? GMT != UTC.
-n
3:53 a.m.
Hi Dee,
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 12:58:20AM +0100, Dee Earley wrote:
I've just noticed that my VPS is now showing UTC
rather than BST despite
still being in the "Europe/London" zone.
Are you sure it hasn't always shown UTC? They are provisioned set
to UTC.
The following information has been given:
Britain (UK)
Therefore TZ='Europe/London' will be used.
Local time is now: Thu Oct 22 23:56:46 UTC 2009.
Universal Time is now: Thu Oct 22 23:56:46 UTC 2009.
I did a yum update earlier today, but I see no relevant changes in the
tzdata package.
$ zdump -v Europe/London | grep 2009
Europe/London Sun Mar 29 00:59:59 2009 UTC = Sun Mar 29 00:59:59 2009 GMT isdst=0
gmtoff=0
Europe/London Sun Mar 29 01:00:00 2009 UTC = Sun Mar 29 02:00:00 2009 BST isdst=1
gmtoff=3600
Europe/London Sun Oct 25 00:59:59 2009 UTC = Sun Oct 25 01:59:59 2009 BST isdst=1
gmtoff=3600
Europe/London Sun Oct 25 01:00:00 2009 UTC = Sun Oct 25 01:00:00 2009 GMT isdst=0
gmtoff=0
What does yours say?
Cheers,
Andy
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7:45 a.m.
Hi Dee,
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 12:58:20AM +0100, Dee Earley wrote:
It was fine yesterday morning, and I had explicitly set it to UK time
I've just noticed that my VPS is now showing
UTC rather than BST
despite still being in the "Europe/London" zone.
Are you sure it hasn't always shown UTC? They are provisioned set to
UTC. $ zdump -v Europe/London | grep 2009
<SNIP>
What does yours say?
It showed nothing for this year (I accidently sent the details direct to
Andy)
[root@jane Europe]# rpm -qV tzdata
S.5....T /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Belfast
S.5....T /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Guernsey
S.5....T /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Isle_of_Man
S.5....T /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Jersey
S.5....T /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/London
S.5....T /usr/share/zoneinfo/GB
S.5....T /usr/share/zoneinfo/GB-Eire
[root@jane Europe]#
It appears that something broke the UK zone data.
On removing and reinstalling tzdata, all is fine again.
Thanks
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8:45 a.m.
I heard this morning on Radio2 that UK DAB Radios all had the wrong
time this morning. Perhaps it's related? :)
8:50 a.m.
2009/10/23 Kai Hendry <hendry(a)webconverger.com>
I heard this morning on Radio2 that UK DAB Radios all
had the wrong
time this morning. Perhaps it's related? :)
A while before a leap second, a flag is set in the time signal that says "an
extra second is coming soon" and when it disappears, you add/remove a second
accordingly. I wonder if that happens for DST too...
Matthew Walster
10:22 a.m.
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 03:58, Dee Earley <dee(a)earlsoft.co.uk> wrote:
I've just noticed that my VPS is now showing UTC
rather than BST despite
still being in the "Europe/London" zone.
A good advice is to keep your servers always in UTC. It helps avoiding
confusions in the night of the change. Any timezone transformations
should be left to output scripts.
— Kalan
11:22 a.m.
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 03:58, Dee Earley
<dee(a)earlsoft.co.uk> wrote:
Isn't that what it is?
The hardware is set to UTC, it is then adjusted for display for anything
that wants a local time.
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I've just noticed that my VPS is now showing
UTC rather than BST
despite still being in the "Europe/London" zone.
A good advice is to keep your servers always in UTC. It helps avoiding
confusions in the night of the change. Any timezone transformations
should be left to output scripts.
11:30 a.m.
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 15:22, Dee Earley <dee(a)earlsoft.co.uk> wrote:
It isn’t, because if operating system’s time is set to a zone where
DST is observed, logs, MySQL dates, and everything will be stored in
this timezone, which leads to the confusions I meant.
— Kalan
Any timezone
transformations
should be left to output scripts.
Isn't that what it is?
The hardware is set to UTC, it is then adjusted for display for anything
that wants a local time.
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