6 Jan
2022
6 Jan
'22
3:29 a.m.
Hi,
I am working on Stripe continuous credit card authority at the
moment, i.e. you give your card details to Stripe and they let
BitFolk charge what it wants, when it wants, so as to enable
automated card payments.
I will soon need some volunteers to help test it out more
thoroughly. There will also be UI aspects I need feedback on.
If you would be interested in helping out, please could you contact
me off-list? Ideally you would:
- be on a monthly contract
- not mind being charged a bit early - it will renew your service
early (once it works properly)
- not be using any other automated method like Direct Debit or
PayPal subscription, as those would have to be cancelled first.
In the event of any incorrect charge I will just refund it to your
card again.
There might be some form of free service bonus for helping out,
though we will not talk about that for some weeks as I'll want to
get it all working first.
After it's initially working in its most primitive form we will
discuss improvements to it on the tracker at:
https://tools.bitfolk.com/redmine/issues/202
If you are interested in the progress of it, whether or not you are
able/willing to help, you may wish to add yourself as a watcher of
that issue to receive email updates. Stuff from there also ends up
here:
https://tools.bitfolk.com/redmine/issues/202
Cheers,
Andy
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https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting
6 Jan
6 Jan
3:42 a.m.
On Thu, Jan 06, 2022 at 03:29:35AM +0000, Andy Smith wrote:
If you are interested in the progress of it, whether
or not you are
able/willing to help, you may wish to add yourself as a watcher of
that issue to receive email updates. Stuff from there also ends up
here:
https://tools.bitfolk.com/redmine/issues/202
Mispaste; meant here:
https://planet.bitfolk.com/
Cheers,
Andy
11 Jan
11 Jan
10:30 p.m.
Hello,
On Thu, Jan 06, 2022 at 03:29:35AM +0000, Andy Smith wrote:
I am working on Stripe continuous credit card
authority at the
moment
[…]
I will soon need some volunteers to help test it out
more
thoroughly. There will also be UI aspects I need feedback on.
I only got one volunteer. There was a successful charge made just
now for their renewal.
I still have some bits from feedback to work on but it basically
works now. I'll work on those bits and probably send something to
the announce@ list in a few days but if you would like to start
paying automatically by card you can now add your card details at:
https://panel.bitfolk.com/account/billing/
If you already pay automatically by Direct Debit you will need to
cancel that first, which can also be done from:
https://panel.bitfolk.com/account/billing/
Do note that it's only going to charge you on renewal, so nothing is
going to happen anyway until your next renewal. If you are willing
to have an early renewal to help test it, do let me know.
Some more details about the implementation and the issues being
worked on are at:
https://tools.bitfolk.com/redmine/issues/202
If you start using it and have feedback that doesn't need to be
private please send it there.
Cheers,
Andy
--
https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting
11:06 p.m.
Hi,
Happy to volunteer testing Stripe
Additionally some learnings from implementing Stripe subscriptions & ad-hock charging
using Stripe "connect" which has been running for a while now:
- yes the postcode can be anything, but may result in "do_not_honor" payment
failures in live mode
- generally getting used to the payment_intent.sucess webhook event , for example the
data.invoice property is not always present (it is for subscriptions but not ad-hoc
charges) tripped me up recently
- getting familiar with the automated payment retry behaviour, which is very useful but
can be confusing for a customer since the retries "use machine learning to choose
best retry day". At attempt to add visibility of payment retry is here:
https://github.com/Subscribie/subscribie/issues/683#issuecomment-1003793965
- Stripes webhook retry exponential back-off (up to 3 days) very useful should should your
webhook endpoint go down briefly
https://github.com/Subscribie/subscribie/blob/b12ef9b3f5341068c242823675eb7…
Have found the Stripe engineers are very helpful on IRC.
Hope the above is useful
Kind regards
Chris
6 Jan 2022 03:38:38 Andy Smith <andy(a)bitfolk.com>om>:
Hi,
I am working on Stripe continuous credit card authority at the
moment, i.e. you give your card details to Stripe and they let
BitFolk charge what it wants, when it wants, so as to enable
automated card payments.
I will soon need some volunteers to help test it out more
thoroughly. There will also be UI aspects I need feedback on.
If you would be interested in helping out, please could you contact
me off-list? Ideally you would:
- be on a monthly contract
- not mind being charged a bit early - it will renew your service
early (once it works properly)
- not be using any other automated method like Direct Debit or
PayPal subscription, as those would have to be cancelled first.
In the event of any incorrect charge I will just refund it to your
card again.
There might be some form of free service bonus for helping out,
though we will not talk about that for some weeks as I'll want to
get it all working first.
After it's initially working in its most primitive form we will
discuss improvements to it on the tracker at:
https://tools.bitfolk.com/redmine/issues/202
If you are interested in the progress of it, whether or not you are
able/willing to help, you may wish to add yourself as a watcher of
that issue to receive email updates. Stuff from there also ends up
here:
https://tools.bitfolk.com/redmine/issues/202
Cheers,
Andy
--
https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting
11:26 p.m.
Hi Chris,
On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 11:06:22PM +0000, Chris wrote:
Happy to volunteer testing Stripe
Great! You will need to add some card details in the panel at:
https://panel.bitfolk.com/account/billing/
Though unless you let me know off-list that you are willing to have
an early renewal, nothing further will happen until it's your renewal
time.
Additionally some learnings from implementing Stripe
subscriptions & ad-hock charging using Stripe "connect" which has been
running for a while now:
- yes the postcode can be anything, but may result in "do_not_honor" payment
failures in live mode
We do already have one-off card payments since 2013; they just
redirect to Stripe's Checkout.js to do everything. Probably some of
them have had postcode check failures and I just haven't noticed.
I might have to care more about that for offline charging as if one
of those charges fails we have to contact the customer and get them
to re-submit the details etc. which is a bit of a hassle. Might end
up having to be strict about it at the point of card addition. And
if so, would rather that Stripe handled that if possible.
As it is this implementation won't use subscriptions, only a
SetupIntent for arbitrary future charges.
- getting familiar with the automated payment retry
behaviour, which is very useful but can be confusing for a customer since the retries
"use machine learning to choose best retry day". At attempt to add visibility of
payment retry is here:
https://github.com/Subscribie/subscribie/issues/683#issuecomment-1003793965
Not sure if that will apply to arbitrary charges outside of a
subscription. I set the PaymentIntent to require immediate
confirmation so it will be interesting to see what kinds of failure
codes are returned (I have tested the usual declined codes using the
test card numbers).
Hope the above is useful
Yep, thanks!
Cheers,
Andy
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