13 Oct
2011
13 Oct
'11
12:44 p.m.
Hello,
If you're going to the Ubuntu release party in London tonight:
http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/1283/detail/
Then do track me down and say hello. :)
And no you can't yet use an official installer to put Oneiric Ocelot
(11.10) on a BitFolk VPS, but I hope to have that available this
weekend. With the usual warnings about not rushing into upgrades.
Cheers,
Andy
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13 Oct
13 Oct
2:12 p.m.
On 13/10/11 14:44, Andy Smith wrote:
And no you can't yet use an official installer to
put Oneiric Ocelot
(11.10) on a BitFolk VPS, but I hope to have that available this
weekend.
I trust I can ask this sort of question here without sparking a
religious war - but what advantages are there in using Ubuntu on
a server? I've been an Ubuntu desktop user for some years [1],
but for servers I generally stick with Debian.
[1] and possibly not much longer. Not sure about this Unity
malarkey.
2:28 p.m.
Dom,
I unfortunately don't have much opportunity to use Ubuntu Desktop, but I switched all
my Debian servers over to Ubuntu Server about 2006ish, mostly because, at the time, things
seemed to be available in Ubuntu long before they were available in Debian (eg newer
versions of Apache, Perl, PHP, MySQL, etc). Debian had a super-slow release cycle back
then, and it was frustrating being stuck with old packages unless you jumped to
Debian's unstable or testing release (which just didn't seem sensible for
production servers).
Other than that, there's not really that much difference, really. Slight things here
and there, but nothing dramatic.
I've heard that the Debian project is on a release cycle somewhat on par with the
Ubuntu LTS releases these days (I've since dropped from following the six-monthlies to
only following LTS releases, six months was just too frequent for me to deal with
new-version issues on a whole bunch of machines), but on the whole Ubuntu has been very
good to me and still does what I'm after, so it doesn't really seem worth my while
switching back when they're so similar anyway.
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On Oct 13, 2011, at 3:12pm, Dom Latter wrote:
On 13/10/11 14:44, Andy Smith wrote:
And no you can't yet use an official
installer to put Oneiric Ocelot
(11.10) on a BitFolk VPS, but I hope to have that available this
weekend.
I trust I can ask this sort of question here without sparking a
religious war - but what advantages are there in using Ubuntu on
a server? I've been an Ubuntu desktop user for some years [1],
but for servers I generally stick with Debian.
[1] and possibly not much longer. Not sure about this Unity
malarkey.
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14 Oct
14 Oct
9:24 p.m.
On 13/10/11 16:28, Aaron B. Russell wrote:
Dom,
I unfortunately don't have much opportunity to use Ubuntu Desktop,
but I switched all my Debian servers over to Ubuntu Server about
2006ish, mostly because, at the time, things seemed to be available
in Ubuntu long before they were available in Debian (eg newer
versions of Apache, Perl, PHP, MySQL, etc). Debian had a super-slow
release cycle back then, and it was frustrating being stuck with old
packages unless you jumped to Debian's unstable or testing release
(which just didn't seem sensible for production servers).
I can't remember what it was exactly, but there was an incident a year
or two ago that made me think that one really should stick with
the tried and tested unless there's some particular reason otherwise.
6 Nov
6 Nov
5:57 p.m.
New subject: Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) available for self-install
Hi,
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 12:44:56PM +0000, Andy Smith wrote:
And no you can't yet use an official installer to
put Oneiric Ocelot
(11.10) on a BitFolk VPS, but I hope to have that available this
weekend. With the usual warnings about not rushing into upgrades.
Ubuntu 11.10 is now available for self-install:
https://tools.bitfolk.com/wiki/Using_the_self-serve_net_installer
It hasn't been tested extensively, so do take care.
Apologies for the delay on providing this, between the renumbering
and some curiosities of the Oneiric installer w.r.t IPv6, progress
was slower than I would have liked.
Cheers,
Andy
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