2 Sep
2013
2 Sep
'13
8:04 p.m.
Hello,
I heard a rumour that Google is tightening up checks on the reverse
DNS of IPv6 addresses:
http://list.waikato.ac.nz/pipermail/nznog/2013-September/020066.html
I've no idea if that is the case, but given that BitFolk VPSes do
have IPv6 connectivity by default but do *not* have reverse DNS by
default, it may be worth checking your setup.
Cheers,
Andy
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3 Sep
3 Sep
1:09 p.m.
** Andy Smith <andy(a)bitfolk.com> [2013-09-02 21:06]:
I heard a rumour that Google is tightening up checks
on the reverse
DNS of IPv6 addresses:
http://list.waikato.ac.nz/pipermail/nznog/2013-September/020066.html
I've no idea if that is the case, but given that BitFolk VPSes do
have IPv6 connectivity by default but do *not* have reverse DNS by
default, it may be worth checking your setup.
** end quote [Andy Smith]
Yes the are, I've had bounces from them with my Entanet IPv6 addresses with the
following text:
(generated from paul(a)aptanet.com)
SMTP error from remote mail server after end of data:
host gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com [2a00:1450:400c:c05::1b]:
550-5.7.1 [2001:4d48:ad52:3a00::202 16] The sender does not meet basic ipv6
550-5.7.1 sending guidelines of authentication and rdns resolution of sending
550-5.7.1 ip. Please review
550 5.7.1 https://support.google.com/mail/answer/81126for more information.
pn8si4926000wjb.5 - gsmtp
They could do with getting their link right (i.e. a space between the 6 and the
f)! This also impacts email to ntlworld.com email addresses, and after putting
things together I suspect they may have been silently dropping emails on
occaisions for some time (given emails to both gmail.com and ntlworld.com
domains that I've had no way to trace why they never arrived going back to
earlier this year).
I'm investigating at the moment as I would prefer not to have to switch off
IPv6 to get mail working - it seems a backward step! Any useful references or
comments welcome.
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1:28 p.m.
Hi Paul,
On Tue, September 3, 2013 2:09 pm, Paul Tansom wrote:
Thanks for the link - good to see an authoritative reference on the issue.
I'm investigating at the moment as I would prefer
not to have to switch
off IPv6 to get mail working - it seems a backward step! Any useful
references or comments welcome.
I'd recommend the IPv6 reverse DNS info on the Bitfolk wiki:
https://tools.bitfolk.com/wiki/IPv6#Reverse_DNS
Despite a couple of transposition errors with the reverse reording of my
IPv6 address (par for the course I imagine!) I was up-and-running in less
than 10 minutes with those instructions.
Of course, if you are not running your own DNS there'll be a bit more work
to do.
Mathew
1:36 p.m.
** Mathew Newton <bitfolklist(a)newtonnet.co.uk> [2013-09-03 14:29]:
On Tue, September 3, 2013 2:09 pm, Paul Tansom wrote:
Thanks for the link - good to see an authoritative reference on the issue.
** end quote [Mathew Newton]
Thanks for that, I hadn't thought to look at the Bitfolk wiki, largely because
I'm not using my Bitfolk server for outbound mail (although thinking about it
some of my websites are, so I should probably look into that too now!). I'm not
running my own external server, but may be able to set something up on the
services I do use for DNS (or just consolidate and do it myself, at the moment
I have my .uk domains with my registrar and the .com, .net and .org ones on a
free service - cheapskate that I am ;) ). I'll have to go back to my local
server setup, I seem to remember having issues with the reverse DNS on my local
DNS server for IPv6 and have a feeling I forgot to go back and sort it out - my
own setup is always the neglected one!
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Parklands Business Park, Forrest Road, Denmead, Waterlooville, Hants, PO7 6XP
I'm investigating at the moment as I would
prefer not to have to switch
off IPv6 to get mail working - it seems a backward step! Any useful
references or comments welcome.
I'd recommend the IPv6 reverse DNS info on the Bitfolk wiki:
https://tools.bitfolk.com/wiki/IPv6#Reverse_DNS
Despite a couple of transposition errors with the reverse reording of my
IPv6 address (par for the course I imagine!) I was up-and-running in less
than 10 minutes with those instructions.
Of course, if you are not running your own DNS there'll be a bit more work
to do. 
7:13 p.m.
On 02/09/2013 21:04, Andy Smith wrote:
Hello,
I heard a rumour that Google is tightening up checks on the reverse
DNS of IPv6 addresses:
http://list.waikato.ac.nz/pipermail/nznog/2013-September/020066.html
I've no idea if that is the case, but given that BitFolk VPSes do
have IPv6 connectivity by default but do *not* have reverse DNS by
default, it may be worth checking your setup.
Andy,
Are there any plans to offer reverse DNS for IPV6 in similar fashion to
the IPV4 rDNS, rather than just delegation? I for one am not desperately
keen to roll my own DNS just for IPV6 rDNS when all my other DNS needs
are already taken care of, so Bitfolk hosted IPV6 rDNS configurable
through the panel would be awesome :-)
--
Phil
8:08 p.m.
Hello Phil,
On Tue, Sep 03, 2013 at 08:13:26PM +0100, Phil Stewart wrote:
Are there any plans to offer reverse DNS for IPV6 in
similar fashion
to the IPV4 rDNS, rather than just delegation?
I am not keen on it since everyone gets 2⁶⁴-1 IPv6 addresses by
default and this will likely be increased to 2⁵⁶-1 by default at
some point.
By comparison everyone only gets one IPv4 address by default and the
option to have zero globally-routable IPv4 addresses may appear at
some point.¹
In my view that makes the two things fundamentally different.
However it has been suggested that customers could still manage the
contents of zones without running their own DNS servers, by doing
dynamic DNS. So I do hope to look into that.
Cheers,
Andy
¹ Once reaching the IPv4 Internet via some form of IPv6 proxy
becomes feasible, anyway.
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9:01 p.m.
On Tue, Sep 03, 2013 at 09:37:38PM +0100, Ian wrote:
Andy said:
Yeah my error was not taking it away from 128 first. So it's actually
2⁶⁴ vs 2⁷².
Sorry!
Cheers,
Andy
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I am not keen on it since everyone gets 2⁶⁴-1 IPv6
addresses by
default and this will likely be increased to 2⁵⁶-1 by default at
some point.
Is there a typo there or is my understanding wrong, because isn't 2⁶⁴
rather bigger than 2⁵⁶? 
9:24 p.m.
Andy said:
So a very very silly number of addresses for one person to have to a
very very very silly number :)
Ian
On Tue, Sep 03, 2013 at 09:37:38PM +0100, Ian wrote:
Is there a
typo there or is my understanding wrong, because isn't 2⁶⁴
rather bigger than 2⁵⁶?
Yeah my error was not taking it away from 128 first. So it's actually
2⁶⁴ vs 2⁷². 
10:53 p.m.
Hi,
That's what they said about IPv4 classful addressing.
Regards,
@ndy
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So a very very
silly number of addresses for one person to have to a
very very very silly number :)
First lesson for IPv6 - 'Think number of subnets, not addresses!'
:-) 
9 Sep
9 Sep
3:38 p.m.
Hi,
Worth noting that HE does free DNS (that supports IPv6) hosting.
http://dns.he.net
Cheers,
Paul
On 3 September 2013 23:53, Andy Bennett <andyjpb(a)ashurst.eu.org> wrote:
Hi,
That's what they said about IPv4 classful addressing.
Regards,
@ndy
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So a very
very silly number of addresses for one person to have to a
very very very silly number :)
First lesson for IPv6 - 'Think number of subnets, not addresses!'
:-)
10 Sep
10 Sep
1:54 p.m.
** Paul Dart <pauldart(a)gmail.com> [2013-09-09 16:40]:
Hi,
Worth noting that HE does free DNS (that supports IPv6) hosting.
http://dns.he.net
Cheers,
Paul
** end quote [Paul Dart]
Thanks, that looks interesting. It also looks better than my current setup with
Namecheap - don't mock, I'm only using them for DNS. I've just configured one
domain with HE and when I looked at removing it from Namecheap when all has
settled I found that I have to email technical support - doh! I think I'll try
this out to start with before configuring an external Bind server - although I
do still prefer editing the zone files in Vim to using a web interface :)
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Parklands Business Park, Forrest Road, Denmead, Waterlooville, Hants, PO7 6XP
5:02 p.m.
Hi Paul,
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 02:54:43PM +0100, Paul Tansom wrote:
I do still prefer editing the zone files in Vim to
using a web
interface :)
What's the problem with running a nameserver on your VPS then, and
having BitFolk provide three secondaries?
https://tools.bitfolk.com/wiki/Secondary_DNS_service
Cheers,
Andy
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7:34 p.m.
+1 for this, it's how I have it.
On 10/09/13 18:02, Andy Smith wrote:
Hi Paul,
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 02:54:43PM +0100, Paul Tansom wrote:
--
Regards,
Jan Henkins
I do still prefer editing the zone files in Vim
to using a web
interface :)
What's the problem with running a nameserver on your VPS then,
and
having BitFolk provide three secondaries?
https://tools.bitfolk.com/wiki/Secondary_DNS_service
Cheers,
Andy
10:19 p.m.
Hello,
I do understand that some people find setting up a name server and configuring the
zones etc. to be a bit of a hassle and they would really much rather
have a web interface to poke at to set up the handful of reverse DNS
entries that they have.
Just that, if you say you *do* like editing zone files in vim, then
that probably doesn't apply to you :) or if it does then I don't
understand how..
Cheers,
Andy
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 08:34:38PM +0100, Jan Henkins wrote:
+1 for this, it's how I have it.
On 10/09/13 18:02, Andy Smith wrote:
>What's the problem with running a nameserver on your VPS then, and
>having BitFolk provide three secondaries?
>
> https://tools.bitfolk.com/wiki/Secondary_DNS_service
11 Sep
11 Sep
4:12 p.m.
** Andy Smith <andy(a)bitfolk.com> [2013-09-10 18:04]:
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 02:54:43PM +0100, Paul Tansom
wrote:
** end quote [Andy Smith]
Nothing at all, and I'll probably look into doing that in the longer term (I
have about 9 domains plus two IPv6 reverse ones), but given that I will soon (I
think I keep saying this, but it will be soon, honest) be reinstalling my
server it seemed to make sense to initially host the reverse zones somewhere
else while I get things settled. Probably not a major issue either way, but one
less thing to migrate during the switchover period. So far I've set up one test
standard domain and the two reverse zones. One nice thing about the HE setup is
that it will give you a copy of the actual BIND zone file, so migrating will be
quite easy in that respect - it also makes me feel comfortable that things are
setup as I exepect actually seeing the zone file itself!
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=============================================================================
Registered in England | Company No: 4905028 | Registered Office: Ralls House,
Parklands Business Park, Forrest Road, Denmead, Waterlooville, Hants, PO7 6XP
I do still prefer editing the zone files in Vim
to using a web
interface :)
What's the problem with running a nameserver on your VPS then, and
having BitFolk provide three secondaries?
https://tools.bitfolk.com/wiki/Secondary_DNS_service
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