Hi Paul, On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 06:03:07PM +0000, Paul Lewis wrote: If you edit your /etc/apt/sources.list to remove all mention of apt-cacher.lon.bitfolk.com and do an apt-get update, does the problem go away? i.e. if the file currently says: deb http://apt-cacher.lon.bitfolk.com/ubuntu/gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty main then change it to: deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty main Or, with sed: # sed -i.bak 's#http://apt-cacher.lon.bitfolk.com/ubuntu#http://#' to edit it in-place storing a backup as /etc/apt/sources.list.bak. If that works, then BitFolk's apt-cacher has somehow cached a bad file. I will be able to fix it by deleting the file from our cache. If it doesn't work then the file on the mirror is (still) bad and Ubuntu will have to fix it. Cheers, Andy -- https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting

Hello, On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 04:34:17AM -0400, Andy Ransom wrote: This has been a constant problem with apt-cacher-ng and do-release-upgrade to every Ubuntu release for as long as I can remember, but I don't know exactly where the fault lies. This appears to only occur for the file that is downloaded during do-release-upgrade that comes from a URL like: /ubuntu-uk/dists/xenial-updates/main/dist-upgrader-all/current/xenial.tar.gz Deleting the file from the apt-cache will cause a new copy to be fetched from the Ubuntu mirror and then things work, so it seems like apt-cacher-ng is not able to tell when those files have been updated. I'm not sure if that is a bug in apt-cacher-ng or a bug in Ubuntu's mirror setup. Probably acng since otherwise I suppose there'd be huge problems with more normal HTTP proxies like squid. Anyway, I have now reconfigured BitFolk's apt-cacher-ng instances to not cache any URI like: /dist-upgrader-all/.*\.tar.\gz$ so now none of these files will be found in cache; they will always be downloaded from the real mirror each time. (There are tons of other tar.gz files in the cache and they all work fine, otherwise we'd see hash mismatches there too.) Cheers, Andy -- https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting

On Mon, 16 Apr 2018, Andy Smith wrote: Thanks Andy, excellent service as always! On Mon, 16 Apr 2018, john lewis wrote: Guilty as charged :) I'm afraid I don't run Debian anywhere these days :( Hi John, good to hear from you! Andy -- Andrew Ransom <aransom(a)gmail.com>

** john lewis <zen57162(a)zen.co.uk> [2018-04-16 12:42]: ** end quote [john lewis] If you don't mind the trek, we have monthly meets with talks (most of the time, if I can manage to find speakers now it is down to me) in Portsmouth (http://portsmouth.lug.org.uk/). HantsLUG has ended up in limbo meetings wise, but Portsmouth is still going strong (largely thanks to Lisi, and I am trying to keep up her good work). Meets are on the third Saturday of the month between 1pm and 6pm (talks generally about 3pm) within staggering distance of Hilsea station (well Hilsea Halt as I've always known it) and with easy access from the A27. This month (next Saturday) we have a talk on Node-RED. We are very traditional with the bring-a-box style rather than pubs, and that is attracting people from as far as Horsham, Worthing and IoW - small but perfectly formed?! Stay as long or as little as you like. Bar that last bit that was all on the website, but there you go :-) I have to say I'm Ubuntu too, more pragmatic and easier to 'sell' to customers as they're more likely to have heard of the name. There's a chance the switch to Gnome will change that for my desktops, although I'll probably end up with Ubuntu MATE. Hi, btw John. -- Paul Tansom | Aptanet Ltd. | https://www.aptanet.com/ | 023 9238 0001 Vice Chair, FSB Portsmouth & SE Hampshire Branch | http://www.fsb.org.uk/ ============================================================================= Registered in England | Company No: 4905028 | Registered Office: Ralls House, Parklands Business Park, Forrest Road, Denmead, Waterlooville, Hants, PO7 6XP

On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 13:32:55 +0100 Paul Tansom <paul(a)aptanet.com> wrote: Hi Paul, thanks for inviting me but Portsmouth is about twice as far as I am happy driving these days. Age is catching up with me, although I am reasonably fit, but the stress of driving is a bit much and it really tires me out. I disliked it immensely when Debian changed to Gnome2 and very quickly looked for alternatives, finally settled on the MATE desktop. I don't get on with tablets or smartphones so the traditional mouse +keyboard style will see me out. I like to have applications running each own workspace so generally set the desktop up with half a dozen. I seem to recall you (and others) having umpteen terminals running in a window but never got on with that, wasn't the greatest user of the command line although I think some things are better done that way, I don't use synaptic for example but instead do daily aptitude update & aptitude safe-upgrade (I am running Sid after all). Say Hi to anyone who may still remember me John