8 Jun
2011
8 Jun
'11
5:50 p.m.
Hello,
World IPv6 Day[1] is nearly over in the UK. Have you done anything with
IPv6 on your VPSes today? Did you already have IPv6 set up and
serving production traffic?
I'd be interested to know.
Cheers,
Andy
[1] http://www.worldipv6day.org/
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8 Jun
8 Jun
5:58 p.m.
On 2011-06-08, Andy Smith wrote:
World IPv6 Day[1] is nearly over in the UK. Have you
done anything with
IPv6 on your VPSes today? Did you already have IPv6 set up and
serving production traffic?
Both my personal [1] and business [2] websites, e-mail, and DNS have
been set up and serving over IPv6 for a few months. I even have quite
a few subdomains that only I need to access running IPv6-only. :)
At the moment I SOCKS tunnel all my Internet traffic through my VPS
which gives me the appearance of having native IPv6, sadly the router at
home isn't good enough to support a HE or SixXS tunnel.
Robert
[1] http://rhl.me.uk/
[2] https://wikifocus.com/
6:03 p.m.
Been running a Virtualmin Pro server with many customer sites dualstacked for a couple
months now, giving each domain its own IPv6 from our pool (automatically assigned when a
domain is added to the system, it just grabs an IP from the pool and assigns it to that
domain).
Our entire app stack (Web, Mail, FTP, SSH, DNS, etc) now all work on both IP stacks
interchangeably, our control panel handles all the new v6 stuff brilliantly (thanks
Virtualmin!), and our domain reg service (OpenSRS-backed) has all the necessary nameserver
glue sorted too.
We're on a config freeze for June because of a reduced support period on our end at
the end of this month and want to make sure things are stable for that week, so got this
all done a couple months ago in advance of today, and today we have continued to see
traffic come in without a hitch.
Thanks for giving me an environment to make that possible!
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On Jun 8, 2011, at 6:50pm, Andy Smith wrote:
Hello,
World IPv6 Day[1] is nearly over in the UK. Have you done anything with
IPv6 on your VPSes today? Did you already have IPv6 set up and
serving production traffic?
I'd be interested to know.
Cheers,
Andy
[1] http://www.worldipv6day.org/
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6:09 p.m.
Hi Andy,
I did! To cut a long story short: Some time ago I built an
Internet-enabled cat feeder which, just for the heck of it really, a later
enhancement allowed me to configure it to support IPv6 - hey, if nothing
else it lets you use addresses like ::feed ;-). So, in support of World
IPv6 Day I thought it only seemed right to indeed open it up to the world
to view/control... over IPv6...
My VPS played a key role - out here in the sticks there was no way I way
going to be able to stream live video (two cameras) to multiple concurrent
users and so I ended up streaming it to the VPS and getting everyone to
pull it from there. It also made sense to host the actual control panel
alongside it too.
Feel free to check it out... although I urge caution regarding
expectations - it is only a cat feeder after all!
http://www.newtonnet.co.uk/catfeeder
Mathew
On Wed, June 8, 2011 6:50 pm, Andy Smith wrote:
Hello,
World IPv6 Day[1] is nearly over in the UK. Have you done anything with
IPv6 on your VPSes today? Did you already have IPv6 set up and
serving production traffic?
I'd be interested to know.
Cheers,
Andy
6:22 p.m.
Hello,
On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 07:09:45PM +0100, Mathew J. Newton wrote:
I did! To cut a long story short: Some time ago I
built an
Internet-enabled cat feeder which, just for the heck of it really, a later
enhancement allowed me to configure it to support IPv6 - hey, if nothing
else it lets you use addresses like ::feed ;-). So, in support of World
IPv6 Day I thought it only seemed right to indeed open it up to the world
to view/control... over IPv6...
You, sir, have won the (IPv6) Internet.
Cheers,
Andy
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6:17 p.m.
Andy asked:
Have you done anything withIPv6 on your VPSes today?
Did you already have IPv6 set up and serving production traffic?
Erm, no, I've always had it turned off.
At some point, I will turn it on, but when most people don't have it
from their kit / ISP, it seems like additional work for no benefit.
Ian
6:52 p.m.
On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 05:50:36PM +0000, Andy Smith wrote:
Hello,
World IPv6 Day[1] is nearly over in the UK. Have you done anything with
IPv6 on your VPSes today? Did you already have IPv6 set up and
serving production traffic?
I'd be interested to know.
Not done anything new, I've had all v4 services running on v6 since it's
configuration, there a couple more DNS resolvers running on v6 only.
But just for today, I've been strutting around in my HE IPv6 Sage
tshirt. A few colleagues at internet operations were quite jealous.
This was the highlight, I had waited since around November this big day,
it was, fantastic. Looking at the reports I'd say it's been a big
success. Plus.net who in the past didn't seem that eager to get involved
were making some big efforts to get people connected.
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11:26 p.m.
On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 06:52:43PM +0000, ed wrote:
This was the highlight, I had waited since around November this big day,
it was, fantastic. Looking at the reports I'd say it's been a big
success. Plus.net who in the past didn't seem that eager to get involved
were making some big efforts to get people connected.
"dig plus.net aaaa +short" is not returning anything :-(
Anyway, I didn't realize that my VPS has a public IPv6 address! I added
it to the DNS record for the domain name (remoteguru.com) and now it works
fine :-) I had to install netcat-openbsd to run netcat on IPv6 to test
it.
I have a hosting account with Dreamhost who also recently announced
support for IPv6. So I could run both netcat and ping6 from their
Debian boxes to test my BitFolk VPS. It was fun :-) The output
of mtr looked a bit weird though:
$ mtr -6 --report remoteguru.com
HOST: nitti Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev
1. 2607:f298:1:102::1 0.0% 10 18.3 26.3 0.5 153.3 46.6
2. 2607:f298::4 0.0% 10 1.1 5.0 1.0 31.5 9.6
3. 2607:f298:0:112::2 0.0% 10 1.1 1.1 0.9 1.4 0.1
4. 2001:438:fffe::39 0.0% 10 1.2 2.1 0.8 11.4 3.3
5. ??? 100.0 10 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
6. ??? 100.0 10 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
7. ??? 100.0 10 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
8. ??? 100.0 10 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
9. ??? 100.0 10 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
10. ??? 100.0 10 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
11. 2001:438:ffff::407d:1b96 10.0% 10 145.0 136.9 132.6 158.9 9.2
12. ??? 0.0% 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
10:58 p.m.
On Thu, June 9, 2011 12:26 am, Progga wrote:
On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 06:52:43PM +0000, ed wrote:
dig www.plus.net aaaa +short does though :-)
They also recently started a trial providing native IPv6 to some staff and
20 or so customers (of which I'm one) so whilst it's small it's still a
good start and so far, touch wood, it's been working well!
Mathew
Plus.net who in the past didn't seem that
eager to get involved
were making some big efforts to get people connected.
"dig plus.net aaaa +short" is not returning anything :-( 
11:02 p.m.
On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 11:58:27PM +0100, Mathew J. Newton wrote:
On Thu, June 9, 2011 12:26 am, Progga wrote:
That's something that irritates me no end. Why force everyone to
put the spurious "www." on the address? It's no harder to handle a
configuration with and without the www.
Hugo.
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On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 06:52:43PM +0000, ed
wrote:
dig www.plus.net aaaa +short does though :-) Plus.net who in the past didn't seem that
eager to get involved
were making some big efforts to get people connected.
"dig plus.net aaaa +short" is not returning anything :-( 
11:05 p.m.
I don't have IPv6 at home; my ISP has
"started investigating IPv6",
as of a few weeks *after* ICANN ran out of IPv4 addresses. Nice piece
of forward planning from Be...
Mine haven't even started planning yet! I was on the phone to them
yesterday telling them about IPv6 day >.>
Daniel
9 Jun
9 Jun
9:11 p.m.
On 09/06/11 00:05, Daniel Case wrote:
Mine does, and I've recently bought a new ADSL router which supports it
too. You tick the "Enable IPv6" box on the setup dialogue and it Just
Works(TM). Previously I had a 6in4 tunnel through a Linux box at this
end, but now it's as easy as IPv4.
The ntp pool now (as of a couple of days ago) sports IPv6 servers - mine
is at ntp6.sinodun.org.uk.
John
I don't
have IPv6 at home; my ISP has "started investigating IPv6",
as of a few weeks *after* ICANN ran out of IPv4 addresses. Nice piece
of forward planning from Be...
Mine haven't even started planning yet! I was on the phone to them
yesterday telling them about IPv6 day>.> 
8:48 a.m.
Hi,
On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 11:58:27PM +0100, Mathew J.
Newton wrote:
Having an DNS records at your NS delegation point is fraught with
technicalities. For example, you can't (easily) put a CNAME there. If
you put an A record there then you have to be able to accept inbound
mail at that machine even if it's supposed to be your "web" server. MX
isn't the only way of controlling mail: it's a relatively "new" thing
as
far as mail is concerned and it's still allowed to deliver mail to host
specified by and A record.
It's possible to make it work but it's difficult to get exactly right
and some purists believe it to be a point of policy to disallow it.
Regards,
@ndy
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On Thu, June 9, 2011 12:26 am, Progga wrote:
That's something that irritates me no end. Why force everyone to
put the spurious "www." on the address? It's no harder to handle a
configuration with and without the www. On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 06:52:43PM +0000, ed
wrote:
dig www.plus.net aaaa +short does though
:-) Plus.net who in the past didn't seem that
eager to get involved
were making some big efforts to get people connected.
"dig plus.net aaaa
+short" is not returning anything :-(
9:45 a.m.
Hi,
That's something that irritates me
no end. Why force everyone to
put the spurious "www." on the address? It's no harder to handle a
configuration with and without the www.
Having an DNS records at your NS delegation point is fraught with
technicalities. For example, you can't (easily) put a CNAME there. If
you put an A record there then you have to be able to accept inbound
mail at that machine even if it's supposed to be your "web" server. MX
isn't the only way of controlling mail: it's a relatively "new" thing
as
far as mail is concerned and it's still allowed to deliver mail to host
specified by and A record.
It's possible to make it work but it's difficult to get exactly right
and some purists believe it to be a point of policy to disallow it.
I am told that you should be able to get away with this provided that
you get your port 25 firewall correct on your webserver. Set it to
"reject" so that things fail quickly.
Daniel: good point about "implicit MX". Thanks.
Regards,
@ndy
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On Wed, Jun
08, 2011 at 06:52:43PM +0000, ed wrote:
> Plus.net who in the past didn't seem that eager to get involved
> were making some big efforts to get people connected.
"dig plus.net aaaa +short" is not returning anything :-(
dig
www.plus.net aaaa +short does though :-) 
10:11 a.m.
[Resending to list, as I initially managed to send from an unsubscribed address]
Hello,
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 10:48, Andy Bennett <andyjpb(a)ashurst.eu.org> wrote:
If
you put an A record there then you have to be able to accept inbound
mail at that machine even if it's supposed to be your "web" server. MX
isn't the only way of controlling mail: it's a relatively "new" thing
as
far as mail is concerned and it's still allowed to deliver mail to host
specified by and A record.
Actually the "implicit MX" rule only applies if there are no MX
records present (RFC 5321, section 5.1).
Best regards,
Daniel
12:24 a.m.
On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 11:58:27PM +0100, Mathew J. Newton wrote:
Right :-) Same case with bbc.co.uk.
"dig plus.net aaaa +short" is not returning anything :-(
dig www.plus.net aaaa +short does though :-) They also recently started a trial providing native
IPv6 to some staff and
20 or so customers (of which I'm one) so whilst it's small it's still a
good start and so far, touch wood, it's been working well!
Good to know that there is at least one place to go to have IPv6 at home soon.
7:15 a.m.
On Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 01:24:29AM +0100, Progga wrote:
On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 11:58:27PM +0100, Mathew J.
Newton wrote:
Right :-) Same case with bbc.co.uk.
There's also Andrew and Arnolds but they're quite a lot more expensive
than cheap honest northern broadband.
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Ed http://www.s5h.net/
"dig plus.net aaaa +short" is not returning anything :-(
dig www.plus.net aaaa +short does though :-) They also recently started a trial providing
native IPv6 to some staff and
20 or so customers (of which I'm one) so whilst it's small it's still a
good start and so far, touch wood, it's been working well!
Good to know that there is at least one place to go to have IPv6 at home soon.
8 Jun
8 Jun
11 p.m.
On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 05:50:36PM +0000, Andy Smith wrote:
World IPv6 Day[1] is nearly over in the UK. Have you
done anything with
IPv6 on your VPSes today? Did you already have IPv6 set up and
serving production traffic?
Yes, although it was a close-run thing. I've been publishing IPv6
records for my websites for some time. It was only a few weeks ago
that I discovered (via a conversation on IRC) that my web server
wasn't actually delivering any content over IPv6. I finally got around
to asking Bitfolk to investigate last week, and I believe I've been
IPv6-enabled on carfax.org.uk and darksatanic.net since.
I don't have any stats on how many hits I get from each protocol,
but I can probably find out with a quick grep if I remember to do it
tomorrow.
I don't have IPv6 at home; my ISP has "started investigating IPv6",
as of a few weeks *after* ICANN ran out of IPv4 addresses. Nice piece
of forward planning from Be...
Hugo.
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11:13 p.m.
On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 05:50:36PM +0000, Andy Smith wrote:
Hello,
World IPv6 Day[1] is nearly over in the UK. Have you done anything with
IPv6 on your VPSes today? Did you already have IPv6 set up and
serving production traffic?
I'd be interested to know.
Cheers,
Andy
[1] http://www.worldipv6day.org/
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Nothing special, I'm already dual-stacked on all public-facing services :)
I did, however, take a peek in on my logs to see who was actually using it.
list traffic from debian & bitfolk is coming in over 6 just fine!. Oddly,
Google and Yahoo, two of the big names on v6day, are still inbound over v4.
Boo!
Shaun.
9 Jun
9 Jun
11:17 a.m.
On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 17:50:36 +0000
Andy Smith <andy(a)bitfolk.com> wrote:
World IPv6 Day[1] is nearly over in the UK. Have you
done anything
with IPv6 on your VPSes today? Did you already have IPv6 set up and
serving production traffic?
I'd be interested to know.
I had tried setting up a tunnel with SixXS a few weeks back but got
couldn't get it set up so as to be able to ping anything. I suspect my
router is too old to be IPv6 capable.
So haven't bothered since and will wait until Zen make IPv6 available
then try again. I'll also need a 'step by step guide' I suspect, as it
is getting harder to learn new tricks as I get older.
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Debian & the GeneWeb genealogical data server
9:02 p.m.
Cernio Tech Co-op's Bitfolk-hosted VPS serves as our European DNS server, and has been
dual-stack IPv4&IPv6 for a couple of months now. It just works, as it should. :)
-Graham
10 Jun
10 Jun
7:46 p.m.
Hi all,
On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 05:50:36PM +0000, Andy Smith wrote:
World IPv6 Day[1] is nearly over in the UK. Have you
done anything with
IPv6 on your VPSes today? Did you already have IPv6 set up and
serving production traffic?
Thanks for all your stories, they were very interesting and
encouraging.
Cheers,
Andy
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7:57 p.m.
Hi Andy,
On Fri, June 10, 2011 8:46 pm, Andy Smith wrote:
Thanks for all your stories, they were very
interesting and
encouraging.
I must say - thank *you* for the IPv6 connectivity. It was one of the key
reasons behind me signing up with Bitfolk in the first place, and indeed
without it the cat feeder would not have been been opened up!
The cats pass on their thanks too - they were fed 168 times that day.... ;-)
Mathew
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