I guess it's down, really, to the way I use it. I tend to upgrade my
release soon after it has come out. Not using my VPS or home computers
commercially makes a big difference to how I see the whole issue. I don't
tend to think in terms of EOL but more interms of the latest release. I am
running Buster now and when the "official" release of Bullseye occurs later
this year will upgrade to that, which I realise is a totally different use
case to most. So my opinion will probably not really be totally relevant to
the question you have asked
Keith
On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 at 14:38, Andy Smith <andy@???> wrote:
> Hi Keith,
>
> On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 01:39:18PM +0000, Keith Williams wrote:
> > It would seem that the standard support is the most logical. I never use
> > Ubuntu, only Debian, but I guess the same principle for both.
>
> So you wouldn't include Debian's LTS either then? I personally do
> consider Debian's LTS as sufficient basic security cover for a
> system because they seem to have enough resources to backport all
> the important security fixes in a reasonable time period.
>
> Do note that Ubuntu's standard support is only for things from
> "main". I don't have an Ubuntu server spun up right now but my
> Ubuntu 18.04 desktop has 728 out of 2821 packages from universe,
> thus relying on community updates for those:
>
> $ aptitude search "?installed" | wc -l
> 2821
> $ aptitude search "?section (universe) ?installed" | wc -l
> 728
>
> Those of you with Ubuntu VMs, how many packages do you have from
> universe? I do expect it to be a lot lower percentage than my
> desktop, because they're servers.
>
> I'm not sure that Ubuntu's standard security support is really more
> complete than Debian's LTS. It depends on what packages you use.
>
> > That is what I would have thought most people would understand by
> > the term EOL
>
> I think I'm going to have to use different terms anyway because
> Ubuntu considers the EOL to be the end of Extended Security
> Maintenance period, so I either go with that or I don't use the term
> "EOL". I think it would be confusing to diverge from the term that
> Ubuntu uses, at least when referring to Ubuntu.
>
> Cheers,
> Andy
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