I guess it's down, really, to the way I use it. I tend to upgrade my release soon after it has come out. Not using my VPS or home computers commercially makes a big difference to how I see the whole issue. I don't tend to think in terms of EOL but more interms of the latest release. I am running Buster now and when the "official" release of Bullseye occurs later this year will upgrade to that, which I realise is a totally different use case to most. So my opinion will probably not really be totally relevant to the question you have asked

Keith

On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 at 14:38, Andy Smith <andy@bitfolk.com> wrote:
Hi Keith,

On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 01:39:18PM +0000, Keith Williams wrote:
> It would seem that the standard support is the most logical. I never use
> Ubuntu, only Debian, but I guess the same principle for both.

So you wouldn't include Debian's LTS either then? I personally do
consider Debian's LTS as sufficient basic security cover for a
system because they seem to have enough resources to backport all
the important security fixes in a reasonable time period.

Do note that Ubuntu's standard support is only for things from
"main". I don't have an Ubuntu server spun up right now but my
Ubuntu 18.04 desktop has 728 out of 2821 packages from universe,
thus relying on community updates for those:

$ aptitude search "?installed" | wc -l
2821
$ aptitude search "?section (universe) ?installed" | wc -l
728

Those of you with Ubuntu VMs, how many packages do you have from
universe? I do expect it to be a lot lower percentage than my
desktop, because they're servers.

I'm not sure that Ubuntu's standard security support is really more
complete than Debian's LTS. It depends on what packages you use.

> That is what I would have thought most people would understand by
> the term EOL

I think I'm going to have to use different terms anyway because
Ubuntu considers the EOL to be the end of Extended Security
Maintenance period, so I either go with that or I don't use the term
"EOL". I think it would be confusing to diverge from the term that
Ubuntu uses, at least when referring to Ubuntu.

Cheers,
Andy

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